Lamannia Update 68 Preview 2 - Eladrin (2024)

Cordovan

Community Manager
  • Tuesday at 11:02 AM
  • #1

The Eladrin is a Feywild denizen attuned to Seasonal magic. They are fey creatures in the form of elves. Mechanically, they are an elemental generalist, great at most forms of combat, with the ability to specialize into their seasonal abilities to further customize their combat prowess. The Iconic is a Wild Mage Sorcerer, whose seasonal affinity lends a unique bend to their elemental spell casting.

Eladrin​

Racial Traits​

  • +2 Dexterity
  • Fey Ancestry: You have Immunity to sleep spells and effects, gain a +2 saving throw bonus against enchantment spells or effects, and have a +2 racial bonus to Listen, Search, and Spot.
  • Seasonal Affinity: At level 1, gain access to 4 Seasonal feats. These operate as passive toggles that grant the bonuses below. You may switch Seasonal affinity once every 12 seconds.
    • Spring Affinity: You gain +1 Charisma.
    • Summer Affinity: You gain +1 Strength.
    • Autumn Affinity: You gain +1 Wisdom.
    • Winter Affinity: You gain +1 Intelligence.

Racial Past Lives​

  1. +1 Listen
  2. +1 Dexterity
  3. +1 Racial Action Point

Eladrin Enhancement Tree​

Cores​

  • Elven Accuracy I: You gain +2% to hit with all attacks. Your Point Blank Shot and Ranged Sneak Attack range is increased by 2 meters for each Core Ability you possess from this tree.
  • +1 Dexterity, Intelligence, or Charisma
  • Elven Accuracy II: You gain +2% to hit with all attacks.
  • +1 Dexterity, Intelligence, or Charisma
  • Elven Accuracy III: You gain +2% to hit with all attacks.

Tier 1​

  • Nothing Is Hidden: Your senses are so acute that you no longer need to spend time searching for the obvious. You will automatically perform a Search check to locate traps and secret doors when you are in range to Spot them, although this Search check occurs at a -12/-8/-4 penalty.
    • (from Elf)
    • (requires Keen Senses - sideways Prereq)
  • Keen Senses: +1/2/3 Search, Spot, and Listen
    • (from Elf)
  • Fey Step: Disappear and reappear some distance ahead. You start with 2 charges per Rest. Cooldown: 10 seconds. Based on your season, this has an additional effect:
    • Spring: You gain a temporary +20% bonus to dodge, +1% per 2 character levels, for 10 seconds.
    • Summer: You gain a +3 bonus to weapon damage, +1 per 5 character levels, for 10 seconds.
    • Autumn: You gain a +3 bonus to Sneak Attack Dice, +1 per 5 character levels, for 10 seconds.
    • Winter: You gain a +3 bonus to Tactics DCs, +1 per 5 character levels, for 10 seconds.
  • Step Through The Fade: +1/2/3 charges of Fey Step.
    • (requires Fey Step - sideways Prereq)
  • Arcane Fluidity: -5/10/15% Arcane Spell Failure
    • (from Elf)

Tier 2​

  • Minor Spring Attunement: +1/2/3% dodge chance. Your Spring Attunement grants you an additional +1/2/3 Reflex Saving Throws.
  • Minor Summer Attunement: +1/2/3 critical hit confirmation. Your Summer Attunement grants you an additional +1/2/3 Fortitude Saving Throws.
  • Arcanum: +25/50/100 spell points and +1/2/3 Spell Penetration.
    • (from Elf)
  • Minor Autumn Attunement: +1/2/3 to hit with Sneak Attacks. Your Autumn Attunement grants you an additional +1/2/3 Will Saving Throws.
  • Minor Winter Attunement: +1/2/3 to hit. Your Winter Attunement grants you an additional +1/2/3 Physical and Magical Resistance Rating.

Tier 3​

  • Major Spring Attunement: +1/2/3% doublestrike and doubleshot. Your Spring Affinity grants an additional +1 Charisma.
  • Major Summer Attunement: +1/2/3 critical hit damage. Your Summer Affinity grants an additional +1 Strength.
  • Fey Sight: While you have more than 100 Spell Points, you can see things as they truly are. You are able to see invisible creatures and pierce illusions.
    • (from Elf)
    • (requires Arcanum)
  • Major Autumn Attunement: +1/2/3 Sneak Attack damage. Your Autumn Affinity grants an additional +1 Wisdom.
  • Major Winter Attunement: +1/2/3 damage. Your Winter Affinity grants an additional +1 Intelligence.

Tier 4​

  • Spring Spell: SLA: Lesser Vigor (SP cost: 5, cooldown: 10 seconds)
  • Summer Spell: SLA: Longstrider (SP cost: 3, cooldown: 10 seconds)
  • Skill: +3% Doublestrike, +3% Doubleshot, +3% dodge, and bypass 3% of enemy dodge.
    • (from Elf)
  • Autumn Spell: SLA: Night Shield (SP cost: 3, cooldown: 10 seconds)
  • Winter Spell: SLA: Blur (SP cost: 3, cooldown: 10 seconds)

canicus

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 11:05 AM
  • #2

The race looks great! Please either make this a Charisma based race or update the info on the character creation to say Dex (it currently says CHA) personally I would prefer Charisma, especially for the Iconic but make it consistent either way

Brakkart

Active member
  • Tuesday at 11:07 AM
  • #3

Really enjoyed getting to build one of these on last night's preview. The amount of options for how to design your characters look are very impressive. My one suggestion to improve that would be to add a colour bar for the facial markings as they aren't very visible with some skin colours and it would be nice to be able to make them "pop" more as tattoos/ritual scarrings etc should, such marks are meant to be seen after all.

Br4d

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 11:19 AM
  • #4

Really liking another Elf. Elves have the best animations in the game.

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Terranigma

Active member
  • Tuesday at 11:31 AM
  • #5

Should Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter Attunement be considered active if you have a related Monk Stance active?

  • Air Stance -> Consider Spring active
  • Fire Stance -> Consider Summer active
  • Earth Stance -> Consider Autumn active
  • Water Stance -> Consider Winter active

FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 11:37 AM
  • #7

personally i think this race looks quite good, but it needs a few numbers adjustments to be competitive. for example, aasimar is the top race because of its 10 mp, vul stacking, and hamp. i think this tree should get at the bare minimum some mp/rp.

  • i think thematically it would be cool if your stance gave you +5 resist to the elements of the season (to help low levels)
  • I feel fey step buff should have a slightly longer duration, maybe 12 seconds
  • summer step should give +1 damage per 2 character levels
  • spring step should ignore dodge cap
  • currently summer and autumn attunement are just worse than the other 2 due to regular to hit being better than sneak attack to hit or seeker. I suggest just making it 2/4/6 SA to hit and seeker for t2
  • I also suggest making t3 summer and autumn 2/4/6 as well
  • make all the major attunements give +5 MP/RP (and only when stance is turned on, so you cant get them all active at once)
  • add to skill +5 MP/RP to match aasimar 10 mp (aasimar will still be better in a lot of cases due to the 60 hamp
  • change lesser vigor to greater vigor (or vigor to match other races, but I think they all should be greater)
  • change longstrider to a crown of summer clicky or fire shield
  • change blur to displacement

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Mystra

Goddess of Magic
  • Tuesday at 11:39 AM
  • #8

FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted said:

personally i think this race looks quite good, but it needs a few numbers adjustments to be competitive. for example, aasimar is the top race because of its 10 mp, vul stacking, and hamp. i think this tree should get at the bare minimum some mp/rp.

  • i think thematically it would be cool if your stance gave you +5 resist to the elements of the season (to help low levels)
  • I feel fey step buff should have a slightly longer duration, maybe 12 seconds
  • currently summer and autumn attunement are just worse than the other 2 due to regular to hit being better than sneak attack to hit or seeker. I suggest just making it 2/4/6 SA to hit and seeker for t2
  • I also suggest making t3 summer and autumn 2/4/6 as well
  • make all the major attunements give +5 MP/RP (and only when stance is turned on, so you cant get them all active at once)
  • add to skill +5 MP/RP to match aasimar 10 mp (aasimar will still be better in a lot of cases due to the 60 hamp
  • change lesser vigor to greater vigor (or vigor to match other races, but I think they all should be greater)
  • change longstrider to a crown of summer clicky or fire shield
  • change blur to displacement

I don't know man, the race seems preeeetty OP as is.

seph1roth5

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 11:43 AM
  • #9

The t4 spells are very lackluster. Maybe if they were a t2...but the top of the tree should be something much more appealing for all those pts.

Longstrider - Used to be completely useless, but now at least it has a very rare place in quests with shallow water, but it's also so infrequent that scrolling it isn't an issue.

Blur - Lots of gear has blur on it at low lv. Super not worth the pts, and if you have a ton of racial AP you're really not hurting for blur at lv 1-2.

Lesser Vigor - Super weak

Nightshield - The only useful one, but also a bit expensive. I don't see any of my guys ever spending that many pts unless they have a ton of racial AP. I don't like wanding shield every quest/rest, but I'd totally do it to save 15 AP lol.

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Shear-buckler

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 11:58 AM
  • #10

The sneak attack from autum is crazy and will be the defining feature of the race. Is that intended?

Lagin

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 12:05 PM
  • #11

At face value it looks nice. However spending a lot of points for nightshield (all of T 4) is a wasted slot. T1 looks good wwith Fey Step. beyond that is just another elf.

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woq

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 12:07 PM
  • #12

T1 very strong, T2 very weak. T3 strong, T4 very weak. I like it, finally a race I can use with my racial points! (I am only tall enough to ride T1.)

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AMess

Won't you be my neighbor?
  • Tuesday at 12:08 PM
  • #13

I love dex builds, but this race does not seem to fit in with itself. A dex build that has spell focusers as character build tree options? It's like this race is designed for the iconic re-interpretation, but the base race needs more spice.

The enhancement I find exciting( or new) is Fey Step, but that excitement is crushed b/c of the charges. Also, it's going be hard for me to slot Fey Step on hot bars b/c of these limited charges. 5 charges of 10 second abilities should be mind blowing OR maybe make the last tier of charges include a 120 second clock to regain a charge.

Again, I personally love dex builds, but do not want another Dex racial past life...it's not balanced if you consider the following:

Mystra

Goddess of Magic
  • Tuesday at 12:17 PM
  • #14

Next race must be Goliaths for the STR race.

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Suggestion

Active member
  • Tuesday at 12:18 PM
  • #15

Terranigma said:

Should Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter Attunement be considered active if you have a related Monk Stance active?

  • Air Stance -> Consider Spring active
  • Fire Stance -> Consider Summer active
  • Earth Stance -> Consider Autumn active
  • Water Stance -> Consider Winter active

One problem with this is that seasons have a 10 minute cooldown, but changing monk stances can be done much faster.

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AMess

Won't you be my neighbor?
  • Tuesday at 12:23 PM
  • #16

Mystra said:

I don't know man, the race seems preeeetty OP as is.

(in a kind voice) OP as in over-powered? Can you explain what you mean with specifics? Lamannia Update 68 Preview 2 - Eladrin (11)

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EinarMal

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 12:28 PM
  • #17

Shear-buckler said:

The sneak attack from autum is crazy and will be the defining feature of the race. Is that intended?

It’s +3 damage not +3 dice. At least that’s how I read it.

Ahpuch

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 12:37 PM
  • #18

EinarMal said:

It’s +3 damage not +3 dice. At least that’s how I read it.

If it were just damage then they would have used the word Damage instead of Dice. And then it would be worse than the Summer which has the same value added but is always applicable not just on Sneak Attack. And Summer's extra dmg is subject to crit muliplier. Dice it has to be. Up to 9 extra SA dice from autumn.

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Shear-buckler

Well-known member
  • Tuesday at 12:38 PM
  • #19

EinarMal said:

It’s +3 damage not +3 dice. At least that’s how I read it.

I don't know but "dice" is in the text so I assume it's +3 dice (plus a lot more from levels).

Edit: I mean the active ability. I see the confusion.

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KC_Render

DDO Class of '06
  • Tuesday at 12:39 PM
  • #20

Charisma +2 vs Dexterity +2 makes much more sense

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